These questions are about insurance and reimbursement for out of pocket expenses relating to water leaks in strata properties.
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- QUESTION: Our ground floor unit has water stains on the ceiling. I’ve reported this, but nothing has been done, and the stains are getting worse. How do we progress?
- QUESTION: My apartment has an internal courtyard directly above. There is a leak in my ceiling. Would strata insurance cover this?
- QUESTION: Our ceiling was damaged by a burst pipe above. The repairs are less than the insurance excess. Are we responsible for our repairs and can we claim the expenses from the above unit?
- QUESTION: Some owners in our building have carried out plumbing repairs in their lot without using an authorised tradesperson. If the plumbing fails, who is liable for the water damage in both their, and possibly other, lots?
- QUESTION: Water travels and sometimes years later a building may experience paint bubbling on concrete surfaces. Can we claim this on insurance as water damage?
- QUESTION: A claim for a unit’s water damaged vanity was refused because the insurer couldn’t differentiate between the existing and the new damage. If fixed items like this in a unit are damaged, who covers these items?
- QUESTION: The carpet in our unit was damaged caused by water ingress through a common property wall during a severe storm. Who is responsible for the cleanup and possible replacement of our carpet?
- QUESTION: Our apartment building’s reticulation floods our storage locker. Many items have been damaged or destroyed. Who is responsible?
- QUESTION: My apartment flooded due to a kinked pipe bursting. Should strata make an insurance claim and reimburse me for loss of rent and damage to my apartment?
- QUESTION: A water cylinder slowly leaked from an upper floor over a number of weeks/months and was not noticed because the apartment below was vacant. Who has to pay for repairs?
- QUESTION: Water leaks have resulted in loss of rent and repair costs. Shouldn’t we be reimbursed for our out of pocket expenses from the insurance and the Council of Owners?
- QUESTION: We have a shared water meter and divide usage between 4 units. One lot owner is refusing to pay their portion. How do we handle this situation?
- QUESTION: A roof leak in the strata car park has caused significant damage to my car, corroding paint work, as well as corroding and staining accessories that I have had added to the car. Who is responsible for the cost of the repair?
Question: Our ground floor unit has water stains on the ceiling. I’ve reported this, but nothing has been done, and the stains are getting worse. How do we progress?
I am an owner of a ground-floor property. I returned from holiday to notice water stains on the ceiling in my lounge room. I reported this and other general plumbing issues.
A work order was issued, and after follow-ups weeks later, the general plumbing issues were resolved. The water ingress issue has not been addressed.
The strata manager won’t reply to my requests for an update on the water ingress.
What are my rights for responses and actions with this matter? I have since noted six other stains elsewhere on the ceiling, which are worsening.
Answer: Send the strata company images of the leaks with dates noted and ask them to get written confirmation from the lot above that the leaks have been fixed, then make an insurance claim.
The damage from water ingress into your lot would tend to be claimable on insurance. I would suggest looking to make a strata insurance claim. As part of the repair process, the insurer will require confirmation that the leak has been attended to and that sufficient time has also been given to dry out the wet/damaged area.
It is a requirement under the Act for the strata company to maintain and repair common property, so if the lot owner above does not confirm that the leaks have been addressed, the strata company has a right to inspect and carry out the required works.
As it requires the cooperation of the lot above, I would send the strata company images of the leaks, the dates noted and ask them to get written confirmation from the lot above that any showers/pipes, etc., have been attended to and any copies of accounts/invoices of payments to plumber etc and make an insurance claim to assist in the facilitation of this.
Jamie Horner
Empire Estate Agents
E: JHorner@empireestateagents.com
P: (08) 9262 0400
This post appears in Strata News #671.
Question: My apartment has an internal courtyard directly above. There is a leak in my ceiling. Would strata insurance cover this?
I own an apartment in a complex of seven in Perth, WA. The apartment directly above me has an internal courtyard. According to our strata manager, the courtyard is not common property and, therefore, not covered under the strata insurance. The courtyard adjoins my apartment’s roof and appears to be the cause of a leak in my ceiling. Does this means my ceiling is not insured ?
Answer: First, ensure the leak is fixed and then ask the owner or strata corporation to conduct repairs.
In water damage claims, there are things that are and are not covered.
Generally speaking, insurers cover the cost to repair water damage to insured property but generally exclude repair costs related to finding and fixing the leak. It can be considered the owners/strata corporation responsibility to maintain their property, and such repairs relate to general maintenance or wear and tear. The insurer has exclusions such as lack of maintenance, rust, oxidation, wear and tear, corrosion, gradual deterioration, developing flaws, building defects, rectification of faulty workmanship etc. However, the consequential water damage (to insurable property) can be considered by the insurer.
Without knowing the specifics of this incident, I assume the strata manager means fixing the courtyard is not part of the strata insurance. As you have noted, it is an internal courtyard. In this instance, the lot owner is most likely responsible for maintaining their courtyard and carrying out the repairs to stop water ingress into your ceiling.
The damage to your ceiling should be covered by the strata insurance once the repairs to the courtyard above are complete, subject to the policy excess and policy conditions. The insurer will usually not cover the cost of repairs to your ceiling until the source of the water ingress has been rectified.
My suggestion is first to ensure the leak is fixed and then ask the owner or strata corporation (depending on whether it is considered owner or common property repairs) to conduct repairs.
If you have difficulty getting the owners/strata corporation to rectify the leak, you can refer to the Landgate guide to resolving disputes: Resolving disputes – Five step approach to resolving a dispute
Tyrone Shandiman
Strata Insurance Solutions
E: tshandiman@iaa.net.au
P: 1300 554 165
This information is of a general nature only and neither represents nor is intended to be personal advice on any particular matter. Shandit Pty Ltd T/as Strata Insurance Solutions strongly suggests that no person should act specifically on the basis of the information in this document, but should obtain appropriate professional advice based on their own personal circumstances. Shandit Pty Ltd T/As Strata Insurance Solutions is a Corporate Authorised Representative (No. 404246) of Insurance Advisenent Australia AFSL No 240549, ABN 15 003 886 687.
This post appears in the July 2023 edition of The WA Strata Magazine.
Question: Our ceiling was damaged by a burst pipe above. The repairs are less than the insurance excess. Are we responsible for our repairs and can we claim the expenses from the above unit?
Our ceiling was water damaged from a burst water pipe exclusively servicing a unit above. The owner of the tenanted unit above denied responsibility for repairing the damage to my ceiling once it was established that the combined insurance assessment costs did not exceed the strata insurance excess of $15K.
The landlord advised my only course of action is to independently take the strata company to SAT because the water damage is an insurable event. This appears contrary to their earlier action of lodging a strata insurance claim for damages to both units under a one-event scenario.
What options do I have? I’d prefer to take the owner of the above unit to SAT, as they negligently contributed to damage that escalated due to their delay in arranging a plumber.
Answer: Where a claim falls below the excess, the lot owner is responsible for repairing the damage to their property.
In instances where a claim falls below the excess, the lot owner is responsible for repairing the damage to their property, however, if they believe another party is legally responsible for the damage, they can take action to hold them responsible.
If you believe you have grounds to hold the owner of the unit above responsible the first step in the process is to issue a letter of demand to that lot owner outlining:
- A description of the event including the date.
- Why you believe the owner is liable and include any evidence to support this.
- The amount you are seeking compensation for (include your quotes/invoices).
- How you can be reimbursed (bank account).
If the owner of the unit above has contents or landlord insurance, they can refer the demand letter to their insurer to claim under the public liability (also known as legal liability) section of their policy. This section is designed to cover claims for damage to other’s property you become legally liable for.
When you issue the letter, it is good practice to include a recommendation that the owner refers this to their contents or landlord insurer.
If you are not satisfied with the response of the owner (or their insurer), you can follow the guide provided by Landgate in resolving disputes which may include referring the issue to the State Administrative Tribunal (SAT).
Tyrone Shandiman
Strata Insurance Solutions
E: tshandiman@iaa.net.au
P: 1300 554 165
This information is of a general nature only and neither represents nor is intended to be personal advice on any particular matter. Shandit Pty Ltd T/as Strata Insurance Solutions strongly suggests that no person should act specifically on the basis of the information in this document, but should obtain appropriate professional advice based on their own personal circumstances. Shandit Pty Ltd T/As Strata Insurance Solutions is a Corporate Authorised Representative (No. 404246) of Insurance Advisenent Australia AFSL No 240549, ABN 15 003 886 687.
This post appears in the March 2022 edition of The WA Strata Magazine.
Question: Some owners in our building have carried out plumbing repairs in their lot without using an authorised tradesperson. If the plumbing fails, who is liable for the water damage in both their, and possibly other, lots?
We are building managers. We have a plumbing issue with the water hose inside the toilet cistern at one of the sites we manage. Some owners have replaced the hose themselves without using a licenced plumber. If that hose fails for some reason and causes flooding to their and possibly other apartments, who is liable? Can we claim on that particular owner’s insurance policy rather than the CoO’s policy?
Answer: The first consideration may be to lodge a claim under strata insurance – this is often the easiest option.
In such claims, the first consideration may be to lodge a claim under strata insurance – this is often the easiest option.
However, if the strata corporation (or another owner whose lot has been damaged) believe the damage has been caused by a negligent act of a lot owner, for example, the repairs conducted were not done by qualified parties despite concerns being raised with the lot owner, prior to commencing an insurance claim they have the option of writing a letter of demand to the lot owner seeking compensation for repairs. The letter would need to state their reason for seeking compensation.
The lot owner has 3 options available:
- Lodge a public liability claim under contents/landlords insurance: If the owner has contents/landlords insurance, most policies will have a public liability section designed to cover claims for compensation associated with property damage. The owner will need to refer the letter of demand to their contents/landlords insurer to commence a claim and the insurer will consider the grounds of the demand and make a settlement or deny the demand on behalf of the lot owner.
- Lodge a claim under strata insurance: Whilst the committee may have other desires for claiming on the strata insurance, generally speaking, a lot owner who has contributed to insurance premiums for a strata policy can demonstrate an insurable interest in the policy. This means in instances where there is a disagreement between the owner and committee over whether a claim should be lodged, an insurer may give precedence to insurable interest over committee expectation.
- Deny the demand: The owner has the option of denying the demand if they believe there are no grounds for such a demand.
Claims of this nature can lead to a difference of opinion between the owners and the committee on which policy to claim under. If a claim is not made under strata insurance and demand is made to the lot owner with the leaking cistern instead, ultimately, the decision on the above three options is one for the lot owner.
Tyrone Shandiman
Strata Insurance Solutions
E: tshandiman@iaa.net.au
P: 1300 554 165
This information is of a general nature only and neither represents nor is intended to be personal advice on any particular matter. Shandit Pty Ltd T/as Strata Insurance Solutions strongly suggests that no person should act specifically on the basis of the information in this document, but should obtain appropriate professional advice based on their own personal circumstances. Shandit Pty Ltd T/As Strata Insurance Solutions is a Corporate Authorised Representative (No. 404246) of Insurance Advisenent Australia AFSL No 240549, ABN 15 003 886 687.
This post appears in the December 2022 edition of The WA Strata Magazine.
Question: Water travels and sometimes years later a building may experience paint bubbling on concrete surfaces. Can we claim this on insurance as water damage?
Answer: It would be very hard for paint bubbling to fall under the definition of sudden and accidental.
Strata policies will cover sudden and accidental damage not otherwise excluded. If you building has issues where paint has bubbled, I would say that it would be very hard to provide evidence that this has occurred from a water event. I would say it would be very hard for it to fall under the definition of sudden and accidental.
By all means, it really does come down to the specifics of how long it has been, over what period of time and what are the contributing factors as to what has caused that damage. Particularly, if the insurance paid a claim in the past and bubbling has happened after that claim has been paid, that might also be consideration as well.
Tyrone Shandiman
Strata Insurance Solutions
E: tshandiman@iaa.net.au
P: 1300 554 165
This information is of a general nature only and neither represents nor is intended to be personal advice on any particular matter. Shandit Pty Ltd T/as Strata Insurance Solutions strongly suggests that no person should act specifically on the basis of the information in this document, but should obtain appropriate professional advice based on their own personal circumstances. Shandit Pty Ltd T/As Strata Insurance Solutions is a Corporate Authorised Representative (No. 404246) of Insurance Advisenent Australia AFSL No 240549, ABN 15 003 886 687.
This post appears in the June 2022 edition of The WA Strata Magazine.
Question: A claim for a unit’s water damaged vanity was refused because the insurer couldn’t differentiate between the existing and the new damage. If fixed items like this in a unit are damaged, who covers these items?
Our strata insurance assessor said there was existing water damage and new water damage on a unit’s vanity from a huge amount of water entering the unit’s bathroom from the ceiling. He was unable to differentiate between the existing and the new damage and the claim for the new vanity was refused.
The lot owner has landlord insurance, however, the insurer states they do not cover things like vanities, stoves cooktops, etc. If they are damaged, who covers these types of fixed contents that belong to the owner?
Answer: Try to locate the insurer at the time of the first amount of water damage.
This is quite a tricky question. There are potentially two claims here.
Insurers don’t always get claims right. We have disputed a number of claims over the years. Don’t always take what an insurer says as being verbatim and correct. Sometimes you do need to challenge insurers.
How long has the insurer been on risk here? Have they been the insurer for the last 10 years and were they likely the insurer at the time of the first incident?
I wouldn’t let the insurer off the hook in this instance. I would first try to locate the insurer at the time of the first amount of water damage. What you could do here is get a builder of some sort to inspect the property, have a look at the water damage and give their view on how old that water damage is. Then you might look to lodge a claim on the first insurance policy when the first claim happened. That may cover off on repair of all damage, except for if there was extra water damage that applied to the second claim.
You really need a good insurance broker in this claim because this is a very complex matter. But first, you should look at the first claim and try to make a claim under the policy. There’s no time limit under insurance. Then you would go back to the second insurer on the second claim and try to make any additional claim thereafter.
Who covers fixed contents that belong to the owner?
It is the strata insurance that does cover it but if there’s an exclusion in the policy it obviously doesn’t apply in that case.
Tyrone Shandiman
Strata Insurance Solutions
E: tshandiman@iaa.net.au
P: 07 3899 5129
This information is of a general nature only and neither represents nor is intended to be personal advice on any particular matter. Shandit Pty Ltd T/as Strata Insurance Solutions strongly suggests that no person should act specifically on the basis of the information in this document, but should obtain appropriate professional advice based on their own personal circumstances. Shandit Pty Ltd T/As Strata Insurance Solutions is a Corporate Authorised Representative (No. 404246) of Insurance Advisernet Australia AFSL No 240549, ABN 15 003 886 687.
This post appears in the February 2022 edition of The WA Strata Magazine.
Question: The carpet in our unit was damaged caused by water ingress through a common property wall during a severe storm. Who is responsible for the cleanup and possible replacement of our carpet?
We had water ingress through a common property wall into our apartment that has soaked the carpet. This was caused by severe water ingress into the building as the result of a storm. The common areas such as the lift, stairwell and foyer all experienced flooding. In our situation, the water ingress came through a common property wall.
Who is responsible for the cleanup and possible replacement of our carpet? The strata say we need to contact our own insurer, as carpets are the responsibility of the lot owners.
Answer: Strata policies follow legislation and therefore, exclude cover for damage to carpet. The owner needs to claim under their contents insurance.
Section 53 of the Strata Titles Act 1985 defines “building” for insurance purposes as:
53. Amendment of strata lease
any building on the parcel for a scheme whether shown on the strata/survey-strata plan or not and also includes —
- (a) proprietors’ improvements and proprietors’ fixtures forming part of the building including paint and wallpaper but excluding carpet and temporary wall, floor and ceiling coverings
Strata policies follow legislation and therefore they will exclude cover for damage to carpet, which is why an owner needs to claim under their contents insurance.
Tyrone Shandiman
Strata Insurance Solutions
E: tshandiman@iaa.net.au
P: 07 3899 5129
This information is of a general nature only and neither represents nor is intended to be personal advice on any particular matter. Shandit Pty Ltd T/as Strata Insurance Solutions strongly suggests that no person should act specifically on the basis of the information in this document, but should obtain appropriate professional advice based on their own personal circumstances. Shandit Pty Ltd T/As Strata Insurance Solutions is a Corporate Authorised Representative (No. 404246) of Insurance Advisernet Australia AFSL No 240549, ABN 15 003 886 687.
This post appears in Strata News #539.
Question: Our apartment building’s reticulation floods our storage locker. Many items have been damaged or destroyed. Who is responsible?
Twice per week our apartment building’s reticulation system causes flooding to our storage locker.
This has resulted in several items being absolutely destroyed including 2 large rugs, a baby car seat, high chair, a wooden bed head and an electric bicycle.
The storage area is now mould infested and anything that is stored in there is totally ruined within weeks.
Are strata compelled to fix this? Do we have any grounds for compensation regarding the replacement of our things?
Answer: You would be advised to direct your damaged contents to your contents insurer
Maintenance resulting from common property, such as reticulation that is entering places it shouldn’t, needs to be reported to the strata or a strata manager if you have one, to minimise damage to the building and other property.
You would be advised to direct your damaged contents to your contents insurer and, if claimable, they may try to seek recovery for the cost of the claim. They will want to know how the damage occurred.
If the strata or strata manager ignore the issue, you may refer this issue to a strata consultant or lawyer who would advise the best course of action to resolve the matter.
Leonie Milonas
PSC Property Lync Insurance Brokers
E: leonie@lyncinsure.com.au
P: 1300 127 503
This post appears in Strata News #474.
Question: My apartment flooded due to a kinked pipe bursting. Should strata make an insurance claim and reimburse me for loss of rent and damage to my apartment?
I own an apartment in a 5 story development built in 2009. My apartment flooded from a burst pipe. The plumber reported the pipe had a kink in it which eventually caused it to break.
I have asked Strata to make an insurance claim. They do not agreement. The pipe only services my apartment however the faulty is not any fault of my tenants.
The situation has caused my prospective new tenants to get out of the lease. Waiting for the repair plus the time it will take to find a new tenant has resulted in a substantial loss of rent.
Please advise if my insurance claim is valid for both loss of rent and water damage to my unit.
Answer: In instances where there is a disagreement between the owner and committee over whether a claim should be lodged, an insurer should give precedence to insurable interest over committee expectation.
Strata Legislation in all states and territories has a requirement for a strata corporation to take out insurance in accordance with the applicable act.
Generally speaking, a lot owner who has contributed to insurance premiums for a policy covering property they own can demonstrate an insurable interest in the policy – this means in instances where there is a disagreement between the owner and committee over whether a claim should be lodged, an insurer should give precedence to insurable interest over committee expectation.
Where the owner has difficulty lodging a claim through the strata corporation the options available are:
- Refer the claim directly to the insurer and if they require you to deal through the strata corporation you should to enforce your insurable interest in the policy and request the insurer deals directly with you;
- In the event the insurer refuses to deal with you, you may go through the insurers dispute resolution processes (in their policy wording);
- Failing this you may decide to dispute the issue with the strata corporation through the processes recommended by Landgate: Guide to resolving strata disputes
In the case of a burst pipe, subject to the policy terms, conditions and exclusions, the insurer will generally cover “water damage” to property defined as “building” or “insured property” but exclude cover for finding and fixing the burst pipe (i.e. plumbing costs). Additionally, the lot owner is responsible for the excess. If the owner has other property damaged that is not considered building, such as carpet, the owner may need to also lodge a claim under their landlords insurance for this portion of the claim.
Strata insurance covers loss of rent where it can be substantiated by means of a signed agreement that the lot would have leased out. Loss of rent can only be claimed where damage to property covered by the strata policy (i.e. building) is damaged and this makes the lot uninhabitable. In some instances both the strata and contents insurer can be responsible for contributing to loss of rent if both building & contents (such as carpet) is damaged.
Loss of rent under a strata policy generally provides cover up to the point at which the property is re-tenanted.
Tyrone Shandiman
Strata Insurance Solutions
E: tshandiman@iaa.net.au
P: 07 3899 5129
This information is of a general nature only and neither represents nor is intended to be personal advice on any particular matter. Shandit Pty Ltd T/as Strata Insurance Solutions strongly suggests that no person should act specifically on the basis of the information in this document, but should obtain appropriate professional advice based on their own personal circumstances. Shandit Pty Ltd T/As Strata Insurance Solutions is a Corporate Authorised Representative (No. 404246) of Insurance Advisernet Australia AFSL No 240549, ABN 15 003 886 687.
This post appears in the March 2021 edition of The WA Strata Magazine.
Question: A water cylinder slowly leaked from an upper floor over a number of weeks/months and was not noticed because the apartment below was vacant. Who has to pay for repairs?
A water cylinder slowly leaked from an upper floor over a number of weeks/months and was not noticed because the apartment below was vacant. It has caused some damage to the exterior of the building.
The insurance company will not pay for the repair due to the damage being “gradual” and not from a sudden, one-off event. Who has to pay for the building damage rectification, the lot owner or the Strata?
Answer: The strata company would be responsible to rectify and pay for the damage, however there could be a case for recovery of those costs.
Please note: this response was provided prior to the proclamation of the new strata title amendments.
The question does not stipulate whether the “leaking” water cylinder is located within a unit on the upper floor or external on the common property wall. This could have a bearing on who is ultimately responsible for the rectification costs.
As it is an apartment complex the exterior would be normally common property, however, I am aware of a multi storey complex in Perth where the boundaries of the lot are such that the external lots have their boundaries to the external walls of the complex. On my initial assumption, the strata company under section 35(1)(c) has the responsibility to repair the damage. If the water cylinder was for the use of the upper apartment but located on common property it would be deemed under section 35(1)(c)(ii) personal property vested in the strata company and as such the responsibility of the strata company to maintain. Note it is not the responsibility of a tenant to notify the strata company of any issues. That responsibility rests with the lot owner/property manager.
If the water cylinder was within a unit on the upper floor, the owner would have a responsibility to maintain and repair Schedule 1 By-law (1)(b) and could be held accountable for any damage incurred to property. If the cylinder was on common property the strata company has a responsibility to maintain, service, repair and renew and inspect common property.
Without further information my initial answer would be the strata company would be responsible to rectify and pay for the damage, however, there could be a case for recovery of those costs. Additional information would be required.
Brian Rulyancich
StrataTAC
E: strata@stratatac.com.au
P: 0428 970 067
This post appears in Strata News #332.
Question: Water leaks have resulted in loss of rent and repair costs. Shouldn’t we be reimbursed for our out of pocket expenses from the insurance and the Council of Owners?
I have a common interest with my son in one of 14 apartments in Fremantle. The apartment is rented out as an Airbnb.
Mid last year, a renter rang complaining that the power kept tripping. My son went down to investigated and discovered the ceiling was leaking in the kitchen lounge. We refunded the renters money and contacted the Strata. Initially, the Strata were extremely helpful and organised an electrician to attend quickly and then return on to finalise repairs.
On this follow up visit from the electrician, they discovered a water leak. A plumber was organised and the leak was repaired. We received the electrical safety certificate. The whole process ended up taking around two weeks.
We made a claim from the insurance for compensation for lost income for the two weeks, as we were unable to let the unit until the repairs had been completed.
The insurance company agreed to reimburse only part of the lost income and this doesn’t seem fair to me.
Also, when the plumbers were fixing the ceiling in the lounge and kitchen they discovered the ceiling above the shower was leaking. This was not related to the same burst pipe. We were advised it was a leaking shower from the unit above. This was finally fixed about one month later. The Strata advised they would submit the invoice to the Council of Owners for their consideration. Weeks later we are still waiting for an update.
From my understanding, all walls, floors and ceilings are common property and should be maintained by the Strata. Is this correct?
Answer: You are entitled to have the decision reviewed by the insurer’s Internal Disputes Resolution Team.
Please note: this response was provided prior to the proclamation of the new strata title amendments.
As I am not your insurance broker I am unable to comment about the specifics of your claims, other than to offer some general information about your rights and ideas on how to proceed.
Loss of Rental Income
Your insurer’s Product Disclosure Statement, as you would be aware, provides reimbursement following an insurable event accepted by the insurer, for Loss of Rent or Temporary Accommodation, when your lot /common property is made unfit for its intended purpose.
Under the Financial Services Review Act, you are entitled to have the decision reviewed by the insurer’s Internal Disputes Resolution Team. See attached an extract from the Longitude PDS for your information.
Leak in the bathroom
As this involves another Lot Owner’s shower recess area, such as waterproofing or re-grouting etc., sometimes it is a little more of a complex matter for the Council of Owners to work through depending on your strata plan and boundary definitions etc.
This part of your query relates to strata management, not insurance and I would suggest you speak to your Council of Owner members or your strata manager to understand the procedure and steps involved to get this matter resolved. Generally, the cause of the water ingress to your ceiling has to be fixed before repairs to the ceiling are undertaken.
Hopefully, this is of assistance to you or maybe contact your strata’s insurance broker for more information.
Leonie Milonas
PSC Property Lync Insurance Brokers
E: leonie@lyncinsure.com.au
P: 1300 127 503
General Disclosure
The responses to the above questions are prepared for informational purposes only, and is not legal advice and should not be relied on as legal or insurance advice. You should consult with a qualified insurance or legal advisor.
This post appears in Strata News #269.
Question: We have a shared water meter and divide usage between 4 units. One lot owner is refusing to pay their portion. How do we handle this situation?
We live in a strata complex of 4 units. Units 1 and 2 are privately owned and we own Units 3 and 4.
We share one water meter and divide the water usage between us. However, Unit 2 has not been in their Unit for most of the last 2 years and I have not been charging them for any water.
Just recently in the last few months, we noticed Unit 2 owners have been returning quite frequently and therefore I charged them a share of the water usage. Now they do not want to pay. Also, we do not have a strata levy bank account, we each pay as the bill is due.
Is there something in the legislation saying the strata owner is responsible to pay for water from a shared water meter regardless of occupancy, or do you have any advice on how I should proceed with the matter?
Answer: In order to settle the payment you would have to apply to SAT.
Please note: this response was provided prior to the proclamation of the new strata title amendments.
This one can be a little annoying where an owner doesn’t pay their portion of the common property bills and there isn’t any strata police to help. You have done the honourable thing in not charging unit 2 for water that isn’t used by them. However, unfortunately, I would never suggest doing it for this exact reason.
Unless you have meters that say unit 2 has used ‘xyz’ amount of water, the common property water bill should be divided by what is agreed upon by the strata company – which I would suggest is by unit entitlement or simply divided by the number of units.
In order to settle the payment, you would have to apply to SAT. Which might not be worth the amount of money in question.
My best suggestion would be to look into installing separate water meters. Take a look at this information from Water Corp with the further necessary forms for application to install meters.
The costs involved can vary greatly from property to property. This is definitely worth investigation. Treatment without prevention is simply unsustainable!
Jordan Dinga
Abode Strata
E: abode@abodestrata.com.au
P: 08 9368 2221
This post appears in Strata News #243.
Question: A roof leak in the strata car park has caused significant damage to my car, corroding paint work, as well as corroding and staining accessories that I have had added to the car. Who is responsible for the cost of the repair?
Just looking for a little advice/clarification if you are able.
I am a tenant living in an apartment complex which has an underground strata car park.
During last year’s storms, the roof of the car park leaked all over the place, in storerooms and on cars.
The leak over my car bay caused significant damage to my car, corroding paintwork, as well as corroding and staining accessories that I have had added to the car.
I have sent a letter of demand off to both the strata and the real estate property manager stating what the costs of repair are and that I am currently holding all parties (strata/real estate agency/ owner) accountable.
This failed to achieve the desired resolution with no one taking responsibility.
I am now looking to take this case to court, but to do so I need to know who is actually accountable to pay for the damages. Are you able to tell me who is accountable in such instances, or point me in the right direction to find more?
Answer: Taking the parties to court should be the last resort.
Please note: this response was provided prior to the proclamation of the new strata title amendments.
- Motor Vehicle Insurance
In the first instance, we would generally recommend lodging an insurance claim with your car insurer to promptly repair the damage as quickly as possible. The damage would be taken care of, and the responsibility would lie with your car insurer to pursue the relevant ‘accountable’ party(ies) for the associated recovery costs. By using the car insurer, you would be able to avoid the expense and hassle associated with taking another party to court. - Letters of Demand, accountability & next steps
To point you in the right direction regarding accountability, it is very difficult to give a clear-cut answer as it really all depends on a number of factors i.e. the specific circumstances of the ‘event’, the reason(s) why it is believed the parties mentioned are responsible, and also the response to the Letters of Demand from each recipient.Although unclear in this situation, it is reasonable to expect that the Letter of Demand sent to the Owners Corporation would be sent on to the Liability insurer as a potential claim notification. Based on this assumption, prior to going to court, we encourage you to ensure all avenues are exhausted with the respective liability insurers. Taking the parties to court should be the last resort. If the insurer is aware of the potential claim, it is likely they will want to avoid costs associated with the court system and reach a resolution before this point.
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Please note this Q&A response is not intended to be personal advice and you should not rely on it as a substitute for any form of advice. Please contact Whitbread Associates Pty Ltd ABN 69 005 490 228 Licence Number: 229092 trading as Whitbread Insurance Brokers for further information.
Please note this advice was provided prior to the proclamation of the new strata title amendments and will be updated in due course.
This post appears in Strata News #125.
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Edward John Dickson says
Water Ingress seems to be a big problem. When we moved in to our Unit we were never informed of any issues such as this. Over the years (at least the last 5) more and more units report water ingress issues. who is actually responsible for these issues?? The rest of the Lot owners paying extra levies? Insurance companies? the Builder or the real estate people who sold these units and did not advise potential buyers that these existed?
I do not have a water ingress issue but will be asked to pay 2-3000 dollars as an extra payment so the Body corporate can attempt to fix the problems. Which they have done over the years with no success. Any agreement with a building company that says they can repair these things can they be held to a surety over the years to maintain the repairs
Nikki Jovicic says
Hi Edward
This certainly is a big problem Nationally and, as you mention, in Perth. You may be interested in viewing a Webinar we recorded with Bruce McKenzie from Sedgwick: WA: Defects and Remedial Works Projects
We also have a Webinar coming up in early Feb 2022 with Tyrone Shandiman, Strata Insurance Solutions: NAT: Water Damage Insurance Claims
You can register for this webinar here: https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_03zDYekRQs-5iY7GcUipbQ
Thanks
Peter Draper says
I have a property which was rented to a tenant in a Strata Title complex in Sydney. Approx 2 years ago water entered into the lounge room and wet the carpet following a major down pour of rain. I had some carpet dryers brought in and advised the Strata Committee and the Strata Manager of the problem. They did nothing. Heavy rain again caused water to enter the unit. Again I paid to have the carper dried as best they could. More rain more wet carpet. The tenant reported mould on the carpet and the adjoining walls and gave notice.
I again reported it and the Strata Manager said that they would now attend to to the problem. I asked for compensation. They advised that the Body Corporate Insurers do not cover a lot owners carpets. I went to my insurer who said that it was the Body Corporate Insurers responsibility because the water has entered from outside (Common Property). So back to the BC Insurers who have refused to pay. The BC Manager and the Committee failed to fix the problem (in fact didnt even try to fix the problem until later last year and are still doing some remedial works.
In the meantime I paid to have the carpet removed and put a water resistant vinyl down. I then re-let the Unit. I did tell the tenant there had been water problems and she was very understand as her lounge room flooded on several occasions and damaged some of her furniture. I paid out $900 in damages and continued to complain. The tenant then said she required a $100 pw rent reduction until the problem was fixed or she would move out.
I am still battling between the 2 insurers and over 2 years out still have no joy.
What can I do???
Eric Bevan says
many faults such as the above may be covered by the builders 6 year warrenty as was a recent one in coogee where a builder had to replace window frames completely to a large number of apartments due very faulty instalation. I t pays to check if the 6 yesr period still covers your situation and insurance may not cover builders faults
Marion Wallace says
Not sure what my position is on this matter so where possible can I get some advice. I recently purchased a strata title property and it had damage, pillowing, to the ceiling. I got a plasterer in to give me a quote to get it fixed and he suggested that he thought it was actually an insurance job because of the extent of the damage he felt that there must have been a leak at some point. I contacted the strata and asked what I could do in relation to the ceiling. They were very helpful and said they’d contact the insurance company and then get back to me. In a little over a week I was told that the insurance company had excepted the claim and they had got a quote which the secretary of the strata would forward on to me. When I got the quote it was only for painting the ceiling nothing about repairs to the ceiling. On the painters quote he specifically points out that the ceiling required repairs before he could carry out his work.
I contacted the secretary but they refuse to discuss it so where do I go from here. Do I just pay to get it repaired because I haven’t moved in as it is an extensive area
Regards Marion Wallace
eM says
Thanks for the clarification, Leonie.
It does take time and owners – remember that members of the council are volunteers.