NSW: Q&A What are the rules around smoke and smoking in strata buildings?

The LookUpStrata Team

7 years ago

This Q&A answers questions from our audience about the controversial topic of smoking in NSW strata buildings.

Table of Contents:

QUESTION: How important were detailed records in the success of a recent tribunal hearing? How much effort was it to keep the records?

QUESTION: We do not have a smoking bylaw. A neighbour smokes on their balcony and the smoke drift enters my lot. Can I claim the smoker is creating a nuisance?

VIDEO: A recent NCAT decision has significantly broadened the ability for owners corporations to take action against smokers who are causing a nuisance to other lot owners and occupants.

QUESTION: My new neighbours in the unit above uses incense in their unit every day. The smell fills up my unit and in the public passageway. What legal rights do I have? Is it all right to get the police involved?

QUESTION: We have a by-law stating residents are permitted to smoke on common property. This came about as one lot owner wanted the by-law and no-one challenged him at the time. I am strongly against the by-law and want to know how I can get this smoking bylaw changed.

QUESTION: Our smoking bylaw states ‘No smoking in all common areas AND No Smoking inside your own apartment’. Is this bylaw legal in NSW and if not can it be removed?

QUESTION: How do we handle the other duplex lot owners who smoke outside their lot. Smoke drifts over the dividing fence and into my ageing father’s lot.

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Question: How important were detailed records in the success of a recent tribunal hearing? How much effort was it to keep the records?

During Brenton Pittman’s tribunal hearing to stop smoke drift from entering his apartment, the tribunal member described his record keeping as meticulous evidence and compelling. How much effort was it to keep the records? How did Brenton know to keep such detailed records and how much weight does he feel it had on the outcome of the decision? Could this style of record keeping be used for any nuisance case?

Answer: For any nuisance case, detailed record keeping would assist in building the case and make it easier if the matter proceeds to a tribunal hearing.

My previous business dealings involved keeping records that may be used in court for my company. We thought we should be noting a date, a time, what was said, the direction of the wind..etc

The direction of the wind was quite important because one of the excuses was the high level of wind in this area blows the smoke well away from the building quite quickly. We’re on the leeward, North side of the building and more than 60 per cent of the wind blows from the South. Our records showed it’s quite possible we would be the only people experiencing smoke drift.

Our records noted if one or both of us smelt cigarette smoke. We recorded the time of the day, what part of the unit we were in and any other activity that may have been happening eg if we could hear a dog barking or the scraping of chairs.

More importantly, we recorded what the smoke drift was doing to us. Was it distracting us, giving us a bad smell or taste in our mouth, or irritated eyes, sore throat, or lack of concentration?

Over 200 days of recording this, we had 800 events. We collated all of this information into a spreadsheet for the court. Six or eight of the incidents were disputed. When you’ve got one per cent of the evidence disputed, you would imagine a tribunal member will consider the evidence pretty accurate.

Ultimately, I feel that although this evidence wasn’t constantly brought up in the matter, the tribunal member made two or three comments that it was probably the best record keeping he had seen for any of his cigarette smoke cases. I believe it was highly important to the final outcome.

For any nuisance case, detailed record keeping would assist in building the case and make it easier if the matter proceeds to a tribunal hearing.

Brenton Pittman, Applicant in the Pittman v Newport [2022] NSWCATCD 173 case

This post appears in the June 2023 edition of The NSW Strata Magazine.

Question: We do not have a smoking bylaw. A neighbour smokes on their balcony and the smoke drift enters my lot. Can I claim the smoker is creating a nuisance?

I am a non-smoker in an older apartment block without a no smoking by-law. My next-door neighbour leans on this as justification for smoking on their balcony daily. The smoke drift seeps into my house.

I have tried talking with them, letting them know their smoke is drifting into my house, to no avail. They says they are “trying” to help me out by only smoking on the far side of their balcony, but the smoke still ends up in my living space.

I have two children living here. The smoker doesn’t care that the children are breathing second-hand smoke almost on a daily basis.

I am on the executive committee and plan to table a request to adopt the model by-laws at our next AGM, but I have heard the smoker is planning to block the request.

Do I have hope under section 153: Owners, occupiers and other persons not to create nuisance?

Answer: You certainly have.

You certainly have. You need to keep very detailed records of any smoke drift events including the time, duration, where you could smell it and the measures you have taken to prevent smoke drift from entering your lot.

Allison Benson Kerin Benson Lawyers E: allison@kerinbensonlawyers.com.au P: 02 4032 7990

This post appears in Strata News #631.

VIDEO: A recent NCAT decision has significantly broadened the ability for owners corporations to take action against smokers who are causing a nuisance to other lot owners and occupants.

Warwick van Ede from JS Mueller & Co Lawyers joins Nikki Jovicic to provide some detail around a recent NCAT smoking and smoke drift decision that they are calling “Another Nail in the Coffin” for smokers in strata. Find out what the decision means for you and your strata building.

This case relates to a multi-storey residential building in Sydney’s CBD. Lot owners constantly experienced smoke drifting into their apartment from the neighbours smoking next door. The neighbours regularly smoked inside their lot and on their balcony. They thought this was fine because the building’s bylaws stated that you could not smoke on common property or allow smoke to penetrate common property, and they felt they were doing neither.

The owners corporation brought proceedings against the smokers on the basis that, even though they were smoking within their lot, these owners had breached a bylaw.

The tribunal found that the act of smoking into the air surrounding the building penetrated into the next door neighbour’s apartment was a breach of the bylaw. Even though the smokers were inside their lot when they smoked, the smoke had to travel through common property air space and a window to end up in the neighbour’s apartment.

Even if you use the standard bylaw, your building may be able to take action if smoke is penetrating into lots or common property. This decision has significantly broadened the ability for owners corporations to take action against smokers who are causing a nuisance to other lot owners and occupants.

We ask Warwick:

Now that this decision has been made by NCAT, is smoking banned in strata?

Have there been any legislative changes in relation to smoking in strata?

If I’m a strata resident in NSW and I’m a smoker, am I able to smoke within my lot?

Should NSW owners corporations be considering a new smoking bylaw?

What are the next steps for smokers or residents affected by smokers in NSW apartment buildings?

You can read Warwick’s article here: Another “Nail in the Coffin” for Smoking in Strata.

If you have any questions about smoking, smoke drift, or changing your smoking bylaw, you can leave a comment or contact Warwick and the team at JS Mueller & Co:

Warwick van Ede JS Mueller & Co Lawyers E. warwickvanede@muellers.com.au P: 02 9562 1266

This post appears in the February 2022 edition of The NSW Strata Magazine.

Question: My new neighbours in the unit above uses incense in their unit every day. The smell fills up my unit and in the public passageway. What legal rights do I have? Is it all right to get the police involved?

Answer: BBQ smoke, cigarette smoke and possibly incense smoke drift could potentially be construed a as nuisance.

The nuisance provisions of the Strata Schemes Management Act, 2015 (NSW) could potentially apply to your situation. BBQ smoke, cigarette smoke and possibly incense smoke drift could potentially be construed a as nuisance.

Section 153:

An owner, mortgagee or covenant charge in possession, tenant or occupier of a lot in a strata scheme must not:
1. use or enjoy the lot, or permit the lot to be used or enjoyed, in a manner or for a purpose that causes a nuisance or hazard to the occupier of any other lot (whether that person is an owner or not), or
2. use or enjoy the common property in a manner or for a purpose that interferes unreasonably with the use or enjoyment of the common property by the occupier of any other lot (whether that person is an owner or not) or by any other person entitled to the use and enjoyment of the common property, or
3. use or enjoy the common property in a manner or for a purpose that interferes unreasonably with the use or enjoyment of any other lot by the occupier of the lot (whether that person is an owner or not) or by any other person entitled to the use and enjoyment of the lot.

Depending on the circumstances in which it occurs, the penetration of smoke from smoking into a lot or common property may cause a nuisance or hazard and may interfere unreasonably with the use or enjoyment of the common property or another lot.

This section does not operate to prevent the due exercise of rights conferred on a developer by the operation of section 82 of the Strata Schemes Development Act 2015.

Division 1 of Part 6 contains provisions about the circumstances in which owners of lots may carry out work that affects common property.

We recommend approaching your neighbour in a friendly manner first. If the “nuisance” continues you could apply for Mediation through NSW Fair Trading.

Leanne Habib Premium Strata E: info@premiumstrata.com.au P: 02 9281 6440

This post appears in Strata News #522.

Question: We have a by-law stating residents are permitted to smoke on common property. This came about as one lot owner wanted the by-law and no-one challenged him at the time. I am strongly against the by-law and want to know how I can get this smoking bylaw changed.

Answer: The by-law may be invalid or of no force or effect to the extent that it conflicts with other smoking law.

A by-law cannot overrule the provisions about smoking not causing a nuisance under section 153 of the Strata Schemes Management Act 2015 and those rights are enforceable in NCAT. The by-law may also be invalid or of no force or effect to the extent it conflicts with other smoking law referred to below.

Please see some helpful links:

Feel free to email me directly at dbannerman@bannermans.com.au if you want to engage us and get some advice to assist you with your by-law problem.

David Bannerman Bannermans Lawyers E: enquiries@bannermans.com.au P: 02 9929 0226

This post appears in Strata News #376.

Question: Our smoking bylaw states ‘No smoking in all common areas AND No Smoking inside your own apartment’. Is this bylaw legal in NSW and if not can it be removed?

We live in a high rise apt block and a few years ago we voted against a no smoking building, but we are not allowed to smoke in all common areas.

Our building has a reasonably large amount of tenanted apartments. Most residents are unaware of the Bylaw stating ‘No smoking in all common areas AND No Smoking inside your own apartment’.

The bylaw clearly states that Owners, tenants, or friends are not allowed to smoke inside your own apartment under any circumstances.

Is this bylaw legal in NSW and if not can it be removed?

Answer: The by-law could be construed as “harsh” or “oppressive”.

The smoking provisions of the strata legislation relate to the “nuisance” that is caused by smoke drift and the new Schedule 3 by-laws restrict smoke penetration to lot and common property.

We have not seen a blanket prohibition on smoking anywhere on lot or common property challenged or upheld. The by-law could be construed as “harsh” or “oppressive” and invalidated on that basis ie that it is harsh that smoking is prohibited within a lot provided that smoke does not escape.

Leanne Habib Premium Strata E: info@premiumstrata.com.au P: 02 9281 6440

This post appears in Strata News #376.

Question: How do we handle the other duplex lot owners who smoke outside their lot. Smoke drifts over the dividing fence and into my ageing father’s lot.

We are looking for information about how to handle the other lot owners who smoke in the back yard of their duplex. The smoke drifts over the dividing fence into my ageing father’s lot. The neighbours smoke in an area that is roughly 3m away from his back door and bedroom. This is particularly an issue as he is on the dust disease register.

We have tried NCAT but the matter was rejected in the Administrative Tribunal.

Answer: Smoking could be construed as a trespass, a private nuisance and constitute a violation of your father’s right to quiet enjoyment of his property.

On the assumption you do not wish to further pursue your rights through NCAT, depending on the strength of your evidence, smoking could be construed as a trespass, a private nuisance and constitute a violation of your father’s right to quiet enjoyment of his property.

Leanne Habib Premium Strata E: info@premiumstrata.com.au P: 02 9281 6440

This post appears in Strata News #353.

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