Why is it important to find out how well your strata manager organises owners corporation files? Are purchasers and lot owners entitled to up to date strata information? We think so.
Table of Contents:
- ARTICLE: Why should you be concerned about your strata manager’s records management?
- ARTICLE: Do NSW buyers have a right to up-to-date information when purchasing strata?
During the video we chat about:
- If you are looking to appoint a new strata manager, you need to ask how they process your existing files and what their ongoing records management process looks like.
- Why you should be concerned about the way your strata manager manages your owners corporation files.
- How many strata managers do records management well, and how many don’t.
- What is a strata inspector’s blacklist and which strata management offices are on “The Blacklist” and why?
- How this issue could be costing you money.
Paula Byrne
Founder
Strata Gophers
P: 1300 405 605
E: admin@stratagophers.com.au
This post appears in Strata News #354.
Comments on my recent article How Much Is A Strata Report OR 10 Steps to a DIY Strata Report are a clear reminder of just how laissez-faire the general culture is when it comes to individual owners selling their apartment.
When purchasing strata, buyers are often left in a state of panic when they get their strata report and find there’s missing or incomplete information. This can be due to poor record keeping by the strata office who often don’t seem to understand the importance of ensuring the files are accurate.
At times we discover gaps of several years in the files or there’s virtually no correspondence or insufficient financial history. Sometimes, it’s because the building was managed by another office and the new strata office hasn’t unpacked all of the hard-copy files. This may even be a year after receiving the files from the previous manager. It’s pretty common to come across missing electronic-files too because the files have been handed over on a USB stick or disc, but the new strata office hasn’t bothered to save all the files to their system.
When strata searchers ask for missing files, a surprisingly common response is “tell me what you are looking for?” It takes great restraint not to answer “sorry, I left my crystal ball at home today”. Obviously, a strata searcher must be given access to all the files in order to ascertain both recent and current matters/issues.
Unable to Ascertain Information Due to Missing Files
Many strata offices don’t realise the finished strata report not only includes decision-making information, but it may also include a note about the missing decision-making information … because why should the strata searcher cop the liability for the missing information?
Sometimes the strata office sends the requested missing files via email after the inspection, but usually not in time to include in the report. This is the reason many strata searchers don’t even ask for obvious missing information. They just make comments in the strata report such as “unable to ascertain due to missing files”.
Even when everything seems to be included, the information in the files is often not up-to-date. At times, the consumer has to approach the strata office to get more information. This still may not result in the correct information because a strata management office has no obligation to provide information to non-owners. See my article Why are strata managers so difficult to get along with?
In defence of the Strata Manager, sometimes they just don’t know where the building is up to on various matters, especially if they have recently taken over management. Even so, the fact is that a buyer who is purchasing strata becomes one of their owners. This new owner can be disgruntled from the get-go, especially if the strata office has given them the big brush off when they attempt to get information during the strata purchase process. How about if the vendor has ordered the strata report ready for the sale of their unit only to finds out files are missing? This can be the straw that broke the camels back!
I strongly believe strata directors have an ethical responsibility to consumers to ensure the strata files in their possession are kept up to date with any major matters in the building.
Strata Purchaser Expectations
Having pointed out a few pitfalls of a strata search, it would be remiss of me not to mention the unrealistic expectations of some consumers as to what information goes in a standard strata report. Some prospective purchasers expect us to be private-eye detectives for Fair Trading and others expect a full audit of each and ever matter mentioned in the minutes.
Consumers must realise that the cost of a standard Strata Report only gets around an hour of a contracting strata searcher inspecting the strata files. Unfortunately, this hour is often less productive when the searcher faces hurdles such as:
- a slow or crashing computer,
- a poorly set up filing system (electronic and hardcopy or both),
- electronic files saved with the wrong name or in the wrong folder,
- multiple copies of the same file,
- files belonging to another building and
- files not saved in a useable file-format.
On top of this human error, some strata staff can be pretty abrupt when a strata searcher needs help locating information.
Not filing important emails is definitely not in the best interest of a consumer. As a registered Strata Manager, I know what gets discussed via email. These correspondences often discuss quite serious matters and a Strata Manager never knows when one of their lots is going to be put on the market for sale.
So, should consumers have a right to email correspondence when purchasing strata?
All of these factors have an impact on the information the consumer ends up with when they are purchasing strata. The other hurdle a consumer often faces is the delay in getting the information they need to make a decision. When a strata management office has a limit on, say, only two strata searches a day or demands several days notice before letting the strata searcher into their office to do the search, both the strata purchaser and the current owner are impacted because the purchase of the property gets held up.
Strata offices can make a big difference to assist consumers by addressing some of the issues mentioned above. They can also concider abolishing their current rule of charging unfair additional fees that are out of scope with what legislation provides. The strata search fee that a strata office charges covers the associated costs of a strata search which is why several very large strata offices in Sydney have already dropped this profit-making scheme.
Paula Byrne
Founder
Strata Gophers
P: 1300 405 605
E: admin@stratagophers.com.au
This post appears in Strata News #263.
Are you in the process of purchasing strata? If you have a question, some tips or something to add to the article, please leave a comment below.
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Paula Byrnes says
If I’m to only comment on the file-sharing system that is the easiest to navigate for the person checking the records, I’d have to say the PICA group of companies have an excellent platform called Alfresco, that is usually consistent across most PICA offices. Having said that, it’s quite clunky logging in to it, but PICA’s owner portal Community Hub, is very easy to use. I don’t know how the back-end of Alfresco functions, but I’m guessing that it would rely on other software … along the lines of say Rockend Strata Master, which is also a great software program
Diane says
SA.-I am really concerned about the way our Corporation’s records/files are handled by our SM. It is so obvious that their choice of software has not been chosen with their clients in mind, neither are some aspects of their entry of data on the client portal managed in a way that the client can easily find records, if indeed they are entered by the company at all.
Is Paula prepared to publicly list software that is easy to access for the general run of the mill client? This should be a starting point for consideration by prospective clients when choosing a SM/Company.
Em says
Agree with Paula’s assessment that handover docs are often not incorporated into the new management company’s records so there are gaps when an investigator goes looking at the archives on behalf of a buyer.
Strata management should have main categories standardised across Australia and the ability to create specific sub-categories, and to put a document into more than a single category. Presently this seems to depend on which systems are being used and many agencies have a completely different system of keeping electronic archives.
As Paula suggests – a new job for an expert classifier – or another topic to be mandatory in training managers!
Paula Byrnes says
The best systems are the ones that have a simple file structure.
Seriously, there are not that many different areas of strata management. I see some that have 10-20 different main folders. That just increases the risk of misfiling a document, but also increases the risk for someone inspecting the files to miss vital information.
Sometimes a filing system is so bad, you can’t see the woods for the trees. These types of systems require a file audit, which is just not included in a standard strata report that only allows for 1 hour of search time.
The other issue is that many strata offices don’t share important emails to the file-management system. How can it be considered a privacy breach if it relates to common property? I’d like to hear from a Lawyer on this issue.
Patrick Phegan says
After some years of extracting information from various software systems, Paula must have her favourites and possibly ‘not so favourite’. Would Paula like share her favourite software systems with us? It would be very helpful when an OC is reviewing performance with its current strata manager or considering a new strata manager.
Ron Lee says
If the stock market handled critical information this way there would be no stock market.