This article contains questions and answers from apartment residents about permission to have a fire pit or BBQ on their apartment balcony. What do the bylaws say? Does your strata building have a bylaw addressing BBQ on unit balconies?
Table of Contents:
- QUESTION: Are there regulations on the use of smoker BBQs on apartment balconies considering the amount of smoke and smell these produce?
- QUESTION: Should we have a bylaw allowing residents to have a BBQ on their apartment balcony? If we have no bylaw and a BBQ becomes a fire hazard, will the Strata Committee Members be held liable?
- QUESTION: Can we set up a small fire pit on our apartment balcony? We have units and balconies both above and below us.
Question: Are there regulations on the use of smoker BBQs on apartment balconies considering the amount of smoke and smell these produce?
Answer: You must check the by-laws applicable to your scheme.
The short answer is that you must check the by-laws applicable to your scheme. Many schemes have by-laws which regulate BBQ’s and smoking, in particular since combustible cladding has become an issue in many buildings.
Further, the strata legislation prohibits anyone causing a nuisance (which includes smoke drift from smoking).
Leanne Habib
Premium Strata
E: info@premiumstrata.com.au
P: 02 9281 6440
This post appears in Strata News Strata News #446.
Question: Should we have a bylaw allowing residents to have a BBQ on their apartment balcony? If we have no bylaw and a BBQ becomes a fire hazard, will the Strata Committee Members be held liable?
Should the Owners Corporation pass a By-Law, if they don’t already have one, in context to allowing a tenant or owner occupier to have a BBQ on their apartment balcony?
I understand that the NSW Department of Fair Trading on their website claims that its fine for occupiers in an apartment to have a BBQ cooker on their balcony but it’s silent when it comes to mentioning about having a By-Law.
However, in an article that was published on 5 July 2018 by Eric Hahn – General Manager of Elgas – ‘Balcony BBQ – Using a Gas BBQ on a Balcony Unit’ a much more cautious approach ought to be taken by an occupier which includes amongst other things; checking to see if the Strata Complex has a By-Law in allowing a BBQ cooker on the Lot’s balcony.
I’ve also received information from a Strata Insurance Broker who stated that pursuant to statutory disclosure requirements of the Insurance Contracts legislation, it’s necessary that the Owners Corporation inform their insurer of BBQ’s that occupiers have on their balcony. This Broker also stated that the premiums will increase because of the potential hazardous risk of BBQs (especially those fitted with LPG bottles) pose. In addition, failing to notify the Insurer of occupiers in a Strata Complex using a BBQ will compromise the existing Owners Corporation’s Insurance Policy.
I’ve raised this with our strata committee and some members believe a By-Law is unnecessary and they are unconcerned about reporting BBQ’s on lot balconies to our Insurer. I feel they are ignoring that this matter should be addressed at an Owners Corporation meeting and not a matter that is addressed exclusively by the Strata Committee.
I feel these members have failed to consider those individuals with an acute sensitive adverse reaction to smells which is a recognised medical ailment and these smells include cigarette/tobacco smoke and cooking odours from a BBQ.
Can the Strata Committee be effectively sued by a Lot Owner or Lot Owners pursuant to s.37 Strata Management Act (NSW) 2015, for failing to act with due diligence in not having this matter addressed at an Owners Corporation Meeting such as EGM or AGM?
And still on s.37 of the aforesaid Act, if a BBQ cooker becomes a fire hazard as explained in the article by Eric Hahn, will the Strata Committee Members be held liable to pay for any damage caused because of the failure to disclose to the Insurer occupiers having BBQs on their apartment balconies?
Answer: Many schemes do have a by-law regulating (sometimes prohibiting) the use of portable BBQs on the balcony for safety and smoke drift purposes.
Leanne Habib: We have never heard of there being a positive duty to inform an owners corporation’s insurer of the presence of BBQs at the scheme and we can not see that the presence of BBQs is inherently more dangerous than gas cooktops or heaters. The owners corporation has a duty to notify an insurer of risks, however, in our view, BBQ use is quite standard and widespread.
That said, many schemes do have a by-law regulating (sometimes prohibiting) the use of portable BBQs on the balcony for safety and smoke drift purposes.
You should contact your insurer and confirm the specifics for your strata scheme and propose the implementation of a by-law to regulate safe use of BBQs and smoke drift regulation.
As to whether the strata committee may be sued in case of a BBQ accident, Section 260 of the Act provides protection from personal liability for members of the strata committee who act in good faith.
Tyrone Shandiman: From an insurance perspective, notifying an insurer of the presence of BBQs on lot owner balconies is not something we have ever been requested to provide.
Should the insurer seek to deny cover for failure to disclose the presence of BBQs on apartment balconies the body corporate may have protection under Section 21 of the Insurance Contracts Act 1984 which states:
- Your duty however, does not require disclosure of any matter:
- that the insurer knows or in the ordinary course of the insurer’s business as an insurer ought to know.
The Owners corporation will have good reason to suggest that the use of BBQs on apartment balconies should be a matter the insurer ought to know in the ordinary course of their business.
Whether or not the committee can be sued is a matter for the solicitors and the courts to decide at the time of a claim looking at the facts of the case.
None-the-less office bearers may be covered by Office Bearers Liability insurance (if it is taken out in the policy) should legal action be brought for their actions as an office bearer.
Leanne Habib
Premium Strata
E: info@premiumstrata.com.au
P: 02 9281 6440
Tyrone Shandiman
Strata Insurance Solutions
E: tshandiman@iaa.net.au
T: 07 3899 5129
This post appears in Strata News Strata News #235.
Question: Can we set up a small fire pit on our apartment balcony? We have units and balconies both above and below us.
Since we’ve been in lockdown, we tend to spend quite a bit of time on our apartment balcony to get fresh air and be outside.
Now the evenings are getting cooler, we are wondering if we can set up a small fire pit on our balcony.
We have units and balconies both above and below us.
Answer: You will need to check your by-laws.
You will need to check your by-laws for any specific prohibition, but, an open fire seems to be an inherently hazardous item which may impact on the insurances for the building. Further, the fire could cause nuisance due to smoke drift. If your building has combustible cladding, you would be creating a fire risk. Many schemes have a standard by-law 12 which requires written permission from the Owners Corporation to keep flammable “materials” within the lot.
12 Storage of Inflammable Liquids and Other Substances and Materials
- An owner or occupier of a lot must not, except with the prior written approval of the owners corporation, use or store on the lot or on the common property any inflammable chemical, liquid or gas or other inflammable material.
- This by-law does not apply to chemicals, liquids, gases or other material used or intended to be used for domestic purposes, or any chemical, liquid, gas or other material in a fuel tank of a motor vehicle or internal combustion engine.
Your best course would be to apply for permission from your strata manager and this may necessitate the creation of a by-law to regulate your use of a fire-pit if approval is obtained.
Leanne Habib
Premium Strata
E: info@premiumstrata.com.au
P: 02 9281 6440
This post appears in Strata News #349.
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This article is not intended to be personal advice and you should not rely on it as a substitute for any form of advice.
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Daisy says
The use of barbecues on balconies when there are people above who cop all the smoke is extremely inconsiderate. They should be banned.
Nikki Jovicic says
Hi Daisy
Take a look at your bylaws and see if they make any mention of BBQs or smoke drift.
Thanks
Fiona says
I’m trying to find the precise legislation regarding BBQ smells affecting other residents. There is a guy who uses a coal bead BBQ and lights it every night at 9:30pm. He also hasn’t cleaned the BBQ in years and the smell is horrendous.
The smell comes into everyone’ units, via windows and balconies.
He even closes his.
I have tried to raise this with him and his real estate but nothing is being done.
I’m at my wits end, as the smell gets more intense as the bbq heats up, then when he adds his meals and oils, and whilst it’s then cooling down.
The smell lingers for at least an hour, especially once wafted into other residents apartments.
Nikki Jovicic says
Hi Fiona
We refer you to this question in the above article:
Question: Are there regulations on the use of smoker BBQs on apartment balconies considering the amount of smoke and smell these produce?
Nico says
What are the regulations regarding Smoker BBQ’s on premises where there is only apartments and no wide open spaces?
Smoker BBQ’s are really heavy in smoke and smell and i believe not good to the health of others.
Liza Admin says
Hi Nico
Leanne Habib, Premium Strata has responded to your question in the above post.
Mary Faye Castelletti says
Re BBQs on balconies.
Do the same regulations also apply to BBQs on the Common Property which are situated directly below other unit balconies ?
Liza Admin says
Hi Mary
The following response has been provided by Leanne Habib, Premium Strata:
Yes in our view, the concepts of smoke drift, nuisance and fire preservation would apply to BBQ’s on the lot or common property.
Rosanne Johnston says
We live in an 18 unit complex in Qld. We have had our bbq on our balcony for over two and half years we bought off the plan, we have since found out the by laws state no bbqs on balcony . After all this time the Committee have now decided they want them all removed. Do we have any options.
Yours
Rosanne Johnston
Liza Admin says
Hi Rosanne
The following response has been provided by Chris Irons, Hynes Legal:
You do. You can put a motion to your next general meeting to have the by-law changed or removed.
If that does not succeed, you can potentially challenge the by-law through the Commissioner’s Office. You’d need to demonstrate why your motion should have passed or why the by-law is unreasonable. You might want to start off by making some enquiries with the local council and other agencies about whether there are any pre-existing issues with having barbecues on balconies.
You might need to seek some legal advice on these issues.